The other day in class we discussed the CHP and whether or not the class requirements were a perq or a hindrance. Part of the discussion centered on the fact that, in general CHP classes are very interesting and cover a large range of topics, but due to limited availability can be hard to schedule around. For me this rang especially true when I registered for the CHP seminar course. With only about three to choose from, it was tricky to find a class which worked into my already busy engineering schedule and which also interested me.
Therefore, my mindset coming into this class was that it seemed to be the most interesting of the three. I don't say that as a negative, but rather as an honest assessment of the way the CHP seems to work. While students are given all of junior and senior year to fulfill the seminar requirement, it seems a bit risky to just wait until the "perfect class" comes along. (I should note that I am actually very pleased with and excited about this class, as I will discuss later, but since I have the opportunity, I will at least share some observations on the system.) Also, for students like me who are ahead of schedule, this method gives even less time to find a fitting seminar class to take.
I guess my gut feel is that, since they are given a special distinction, the seminar classes are a bit more challenging and involved than the other classes. Perhaps that it incorrect, but if it is the case, it would seem as though you would want this class to be one that you are interested in, not just one that you are taking to fulfill a requirement. I suppose the result of this is that I think it would be beneficial to the student if the CHP offered more seminar options every year, or at least gave information about the classes a semester or two in advance, so that students could make an educated decision on which one to take.
While this may be partly my fault, I feel that I don’t have a good concept for what gives a class the distinction of fulfilling the seminar requirement. This also partly affected my decision of what class to take. While I am a hard worker and am very motivated, I also didn’t want to register for a class, then find out after the fact that I was in way over my head in a class that I really didn’t enjoy, but also couldn’t easily switch out for another one. In a nutshell, I like to know what I am getting into, and while the course description for this class was very informative, I still wasn’t sure what exactly made it different from all of the other CHP classes.
That being said, I enrolled in the class “Designing for Effective Change” in a bit of a step of faith that the class would be interesting and applicable. After attending the first class session I believe that it will be both. Although it can be difficult for some people, myself included, change is something that we can’t get away from and which really is what springs us forward to newer and better things. Therefore, learning the causes behind what makes change effective and successful is very beneficial and relevant. By learning about the very roots of change I will be well prepared to handle, and maybe even initiate the change which will inevitably occur in the work place.
To summarize, I enrolled in this class because I believe it will contain inherently interesting and useful information. I also hope that this class will continue the CHP tradition of being primary being focused on learning and discussion rather than busy work and grades. I have also enjoyed the fact that my CHP classes give me a break from my core engineering classes. Basically, I have really enjoyed the small, Socratic-type setting which allows me to interact with fellow student with a wide variety of interests, but with the same motivation to learn. I hope that this class will be a continuation, and indeed a capstone to my positive CHP experience.
Tuesday, August 25, 2009
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I'm under the impression that there are only 2 seminars this semester. What is the third? Originally I proposed the course as BUS 199, not knowing there was a CHP rubric and not understanding the requirement you are under. There is a fine line that the program has to walk now, because line items that look like luxuries are subject to cuts in the current environment. That clearly impacts the number of alternative offerings.
ReplyDeleteI believe our aspirations for the course are similar, but I don't want to give guarantees about outcomes. We'll do a variety of "experiments." Some will fall flat, not by intent, but due to poor design. I hope that enough else works well to keep us going through the semester.
CHP 395 A and CHP 396 A are unique classes, unlike ours, where 396 simply meets the Advanced comp requirement. I also think that SOC 396 might be a seminar class, though I am not sure. If that is the case, then the number should actually be 4. (I am getting this information off of the CHP website.)
ReplyDeleteYour post also raises an interesting question in my mind. Did you have to do anything different to the syllabus when you proposed the class as BUS 199 vs. CHP 395/396?
I totally hear you with the comment about delaying to take a seminar. I put it off the past two semesters because none of them jumped out at me as something I'd like to take. Having student teaching my final semester, I was left with two choices: sign up for a seminar or not sign up and try to convince the CHP staff that I am at a disadvantage because student teaching takes up my final semester (ie, try to get out of the requirement). Not wanting to be an exception, and thinking that this class may help me in the future, I opted for the former choice.
ReplyDeleteOk - some of this is showing my limitations. I don't read everything and even some of the things I do read I scan quickly and miss important content. I will try hard not to do that with your posts but for what is on the CHP site... Thanks for the clarification.
ReplyDeleteI didn't have Comp II in mind when I made the BUS 199 proposal. There was some discussion ahead of time about meeting some Gen Ed requirement and I discussed with Dean Hedeman who runs the Honors Program in the College of Business. He suggested we go for the comparative cultures requirement. To me this was the analog of learning some computer programming language as a way to satisfy the foreign language requirement. (University of Rochester used to allow that.)
On course requirements in general I'm kind of libertarian. If we had good and effective advising we shouldn't need requirements (pre-reqs are a different matter) and students would design their own program. Though I confess that alternative might create its own unanticipated and pernicious consequences.